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Published: May 29, 2009
Dr. Janet Smith calls Schindler attack “puzzling”
Defense of Christopher West
(Editor: An email from the Maximus Group on May 27 contained this statement by Janet Smith, professor of moral theology at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, the author of Humanae Vitae: A Generation Later. Over a million copies of her talk, "Contraception: Why Not" have been distributed.)
Christopher West’s interview on ABC’s Nightline has sparked some terrific discussion on the Internet. An impressive amount of the interaction is intelligent and illuminating, even some of that which is seriously wrong. One of the better responses is that by Jimmy Akin of Catholic Answers and the follow-up comments to his blog.
Here, I want to offer a brief, partial, response to Prof. David Schindler’s assessment of West’s work. The fact that Nightline got a lot wrong about West’s work is not surprising. In fact, it is surprising how much it got right. Those of us who work with the media know that potential martyrdom awaits us at the hands of an editor. West has likely been suffering a kind of crucifixion over the past week. What is puzzling is that an influential scholar chose this moment to issue a sweeping, negative critique of West in such a public forum. I have great respect for the work and thought of Schindler and realize that it must be difficult to be on the receiving end of criticisms of the work of one of their most high profile graduates. I wish, however, he had found another occasion to express his reservations about West’s work.
I think we should be very careful in our evaluation of the work of someone who is on the front lines and who is doing pioneer work. Virtually every pioneering author and presenter has had severe detractors in his own time. Some of them have been disciplined by the Church and eventually exonerated. I would like to give examples and mention names, but I don’t want to ignite a firestorm of "how can you compare Christopher West to X, Y or Z?"!
I want to add my voice to those who are enthusiastic about the West/Theology of the Body phenomenon. I think it is important to keep in mind, as Akin does, who West’s audience is. It is largely the sexually wounded and confused who have been shaped by our promiscuous and licentious culture. People need to think long and hard about the appropriate pedagogy for that group. Yet, as West himself knows, his approach is not for everyone. An analogy that pushes the envelope may be "offensive" to one person and may be just the hook that draws another person in. West has adopted a style that appeals to a large segment of that population—and even to some who are “pure and innocent.” It is not hard to find hundreds, if not thousands, of individuals who will testify that they have come to love Christ and his Church, and better understand and live the Church’s teaching about sex because of the work of Christopher West. Cohabiters separate, contracepters stop contracepting, and men cease looking at pornography—and that is the short list. Countless young people are now taking up the study of the Theology of the Body because of West’s work. “By their fruits ye shall know them.”
Schindler objects to the language used in a list of comments made by West and dismisses them as "vulgar," "in bad taste," and "silly." Was Schindler careful to verify those comments and take into account the context in which they were made? Let me defend two matters mentioned by Schindler, “praying over genitals” and anal sex, that might seem peculiar if not properly understood. I hesitate to draw further attention to these subjects because I do not want to give the impression that West’s work focuses on tangential and sensational issues of sexuality. It does not. West focuses on making John Paul II’s vision of our creation as male and female accessible to the common person in the pew. But people deserve answers to their honest questions, and West is charitable in his willingness to meet people where they are.
A friend of mine who was sexually abused often finds it difficult to engage in the marital embrace (trying not to offend!). A very orthodox Catholic therapist recommended that her husband pray over her reproductive organs (being delicate here). Since he has been doing that, she has experienced some healing, and her enjoyment of the marital embrace has improved considerably. One has to ask why praying over throats is fine while praying over other parts of the body wrong or silly? It would be Manichean to suggest that some parts of the body are good (e.g., the throat) while others (e.g., the reproductive organs) are not.
I never like to talk about anal sex (sorry, I don’t know a good euphemism). As one of my friends has observed about my sensitivities regarding sexual matters, "You would censor Shakespeare!" (I would.) But the fact remains that Catholic couples in today’s world have questions about such issues. Many cannot understand why anal sex could possibly be appealing to anyone (include me and, indeed, West in that group), while others seem to find the act attractive. Certainly there isn’t any “Church teaching” about this action at a magisterial level, but few seem to know that there is a tradition of approval of such behavior as foreplay to intercourse (not to be confused with the biblical condemnation of sodomy which replaces intercourse) by orthodox Catholic ethicists. The principle generally invoked is that consensual actions that culminate in intercourse are morally permissible. People are free to challenge the "tradition" on this point, but it should be acknowledged that West is not a maverick concerning this issue. Indeed, his position is perhaps more "conservative" than that of the "tradition." In his book Good News About Sex and Marriage, West clearly discourages the practice. Perhaps it is time for ethicists to work on the question, but what Schindler failed to mention is that West’s position is precisely (or even stricter than) what priests have been trained to teach married couples for a very long time.
In the second portion of his article, Schindler provides a list of his objections to West’s theology without citing one text to substantiate his charges. I would be very interested in seeing a more sustained presentation of Schindler’s critique. As it stands, I do not find that his concerns correspond with what I have read in West’s work or heard in his lectures. I believe a thorough discussion of the issues Schindler raises would enrich our understanding of the Theology of the Body. But for those whose lives are not spent in the academic world, a world in which minutiae can take on epic proportions, let me note that disagreements of the sort that Schindler has with West are an everyday occurrence in the world of academia. That is, we scholars disagree not only with our archenemies but also with our closest and dearest allies. And not just about small matters; Thomists disagree with other Thomists about serious issues of interpretation of Thomistic texts; Thomists and phenomenologists who both are entirely faithful to the Magisterium can have fierce disputes on all sorts of issues. Prof. William May and I once debated on the best way to defend Humanae Vitae.
My point is this: The fact that the dean of the John Paul II Institute in Washington D.C. has issues with West’s approach should not discourage anyone from reading West’s work or attending his lectures. Schindler has serious disagreements with other reputable, orthodox theologians, including professors on staff at the John Paul II Institute. West’s extensive commentary on the Theology of the Body, Theology of the Body Explained, was reviewed for the imprimatur for the Archdiocese of Boston by Prof. May, a longtime colleague of Schindler at the John Paul II Institute, who gave it a glowing endorsement. (I also reviewed and strongly endorsed it.) Several times in his piece Schindler refers to West’s “intention” to be orthodox which could imply that he has not necessarily achieved orthodoxy. We should be clear that West’s works have been given an imprimatur, an ecclesiastical judgment that a work is completely theologically sound.
Again, I would be very interested in reading a sustained critique of West’s work by Schindler because of his own tremendous knowledge of the Theology of the Body. Yet, until he substantiates them and we have a response from West and his supporters, we will not be able to evaluate the validity of Schindler’s evaluation. West has been giving his presentations for over a decade now; he has shown spectacular docility and humility in reworking them in response to criticisms. I suspect that as a result of this recent dust-up West may want to adjust some of his approach (or he may not!), but I also am confident that onlookers will find that many of the criticisms against West are without foundation. Some are erroneous because the critics are not sufficiently acquainted with West’s work. Others are not sufficiently acquainted with John Paul II’s work. Sometimes differences are not about substance but about emphasis or semantics. When dealing with a subject as fraught with distortions and sensitivities as sexuality there are surely going to be differences between people of good will.
Scholars and graduate students will be studying and arguing over the proper interpretation of Pope John Paul II’s Theology of the Body for centuries to come. I think West has already made a very worthy contribution to that discussion. Others are free to differ with him, but I am sure that, in the end, West’s influence will not be found to be a pernicious one. Rather, I expect we will all have an immense debt of gratitude to him.
Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 6:50 AM By Dana
I whole-heartedly agree with Dr. Smith's assessment of Schindler's criticisms of West's interpretation of Theology of the Body. I feel West's work has done much to speak to young people who are exposed to endless indoctrination by the secular media. Why would anyone of sense undermine his important mission? I would ask what Schindler's aim was? I find the whole issue strange and disturbing. If you've not read THEOLOGY OF THE BODY EXPLAINED by Christopher West, I highly recommend it. His television show apparently is not offered any longer on EWTN, but may be available on dvd.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 7:49 AM By Charles O'Connell
As Christopher West notes, lust within marriage is still lust. I believe the development of doctrine will eventually reveal, once lead by the sensus fidelium, that sodomy within marriage is still sodomy. Seek to please the Lord in all things with thanksgiving and awe.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 8:00 AM By Tom Byrne
I agree with Dr. Smith's point about reaching certain wounded audiences, and I certainly would not join in the dog-pile on West initiated by some on the Catholic Right who don't like JPII's Theology of the Body (and often just didn't like JPII). That said, what is appropriate for some audiences should not necessarily be paraded on television. For example, I'm sure proctologists need to speak frankly among themselves about their craft, but I don't need to hear it during dinner. Likewise, an approach useful for private sessions with people suffering from moral or emotion wounds from an abusive or promiscuous past is not proper for a general audience. If West made a mistake, it was that error in judgment.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 8:08 AM By Common Sense/Wisdom
I warn you all but Christopher West's work is not good at all. I went to one of his talks and believe me I left feeling confused. I don't recommend his work, it is garbage and an ill interpretation. I made the mistake to bring my kids, my kids left confused too!
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 8:34 AM By Theo in Ventura
Smith writes that West is a "pioneering author." Oh, really? It gets boring when Smith and West once again try to position themselves as the "special guardians" of John Paul II's doctrine of intimacy. News item: Smith and West are not the only two people who read John Paul II's works. Each year I read 150 essays from college students about John Paul II's doctrine on the "Theology of the Body". John Paul II is a very clear writer and good teacher.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 10:05 AM By JM
Ummmm, last I checked, sodomy was classified as a "sin crying out to heaven for vengeance".
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 10:24 AM By MickMont
Having attended a large conference of single Catholics a couple years back at which Christopher West was the keynote speaker, I believe that there is a pivotal issue underlying this discussion that rarely is brought to light -- that being the critically flawed theological perspective that is rampant today within the American presbyterate of the "Fundamental Option". (Condemned, ironically enough, by John Paul II in Veritatis Splendor.) Due to the prevalance of this perspective which ultimately amounts to the denial of the reality of mortal sin, and the hyper-sexual culture in which we find ourselves stewing, Christopher West's instruction finds a wide audience today. Does that mean his instruction is valid, orthodox, and consistent with magisterial teaching? Not necessarily. It simply means that in a culture wherein practicing Catholics never learn the (oftentimes) difficult truths of their own faith, they will reach out for any balm to soothe the pain that erroneous theological propositions invariably elicit. For if we never identify the true cause of our afflictions, we will forever be resigned to seek ineffective treatments for the symptoms. Thus, one might very well say that Mr. West's treatment of Pope John Paul's Theology of the Body is a very attractive psychological panacea, but it will never render the authenitic cure like that which has been given by God throughout the centuries: the living water which only Christ can offer of sanctifying grace! So if our priests, pastors, and bishops should ever choose to return to the objective truth of our faith, the current vast audience for Theology of the Body speakers will be considerably reduced. It is as simple as that age old maxim of the Church, orthopraxy follows orthodoxy. Anything else leads to entropy and two very unlikely bedfellows, Mr. Hugh Hefner and John Paul II. Perhaps Archbishop Fulton Sheen said it best with the statement, "there is one thing worse in the world then sin...it's the DENIAL of sin." But if Christopher west were to speak of that, he would, most likely, have no audience or appeal whatsoever.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 12:28 PM By SellyWestCoast
I've been through a couple of West/Theology of the Body sessions and never felt comfortable there. It always seemed a little too New Age-y, let's-get-in-touch-with-our-true-emotions-and-bang-a-tambourine-y to me. I was never sure if I was being overly judgmental or if what was being taught (and the way it was being taught) was just waaaaayyyy too 'out there.' But my personal alarms went off in a way that meant I still don't trust anything that has to do with West's Theology of the Body. That's just me.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 12:28 PM By SellyWestCoast
I've been through a couple of West/Theology of the Body sessions and never felt comfortable there. It always seemed a little too New Age-y, let's-get-in-touch-with-our-true-emotions-and-bang-a-tambourine-y to me. I was never sure if I was being overly judgmental or if what was being taught (and the way it was being taught) was just waaaaayyyy too 'out there.' But my personal alarms went off in a way that meant I still don't trust anything that has to do with West's Theology of the Body. That's just me.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 1:28 PM By Alfonso
Sodomy is dangerous and destructive and goes against the natural use of the body that God intended. The bowel tissue can not sustain that kind of trauma without complications as a result. There are all kinds of micro-organisms in feces that would infect the man (probably giving him urithritis) and if they are then introduced into the woman serious infection will result. Please, please Dr. Smith do not cofuse the speculations of "Catholic Ethicists" with actual Church teaching. When in doubt consult official teaching found in RC compendiums like Denziger or the Catechism.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 1:56 PM By Tom Byrne
MickMont: Your closing words are unnecessarily cynical, and I hope you don't presume to suggest that JPII developed a "panacea" to get around Church teaching, as if the Holy Spirit would allow such a thing. As I understand TOB, it was intended to explain how our bodies (including their sexual aspects) are gifts of God to serve Him as much as our souls were, and that we are creatures of body and soul, not Cartesian "ghosts in corpses". Hedonism and Puritanism alike turn the body into a mere instrument, and we won't cure the current ill of free-range lust by a return to the semi-Jansenism too common before Vatican II.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 4:00 PM By JLS
So, there is a different theology for the "sexually wounded" than for the "innocents"? From my own experience, anything watered down or distorted or sly or mixed with mush, or slick is not an honest way to help someone in need. If this is West's approach, and it seems to be, then how do we know that his "converts" to Catholicism have really come into Catholicism and not some imitation or short circuited version of it? You can get great testimonials from countless people on almost any fad whether it is religious or dietary or sports or mail order PhD's or whatever. I read what Schindler wrote and there is nothing errant with it; however, with what Smith wrote there are vulnerabilities in fact and truth ... ie potential errors.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 8:38 PM By JLS
I just read Prof Schindler's essay critical of Prof West's theology. For Prof Smith to allege that his critique is based on ABC Nightline's spin is not what Schindler says at all. He says he bases his position on the whole of West's work as evidenced by a variety of sources. Now, why would Prof Smith use the spin machine herself, unless she has a motive. Could the motive be connected with EWTN? After all, who is now running that organization, since the great Mother Angelica is not? Very typically when a founder checks out, the organization flounders, some fast some slow. I wonder, since both West and Smith bring in the bucks to EWTN, and Schindler does not.
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 8:47 PM By JLS
Now when Smith accuses Dr Hildebrand of Jansenism, let me remind you all that her late husband Prof Dietrich von Hildebrand was called one of the Twentieth Century's greatest Catholic theologians by none other than the late Pope John Paul II, whose legacy seems presently to be contended over by various and sundry academics ... I'd go with Prof Mrs Hildebrand any day of the week over Prof Smith. I've read littel bits of Smith and it is real boring stuff, no edge on it at all. She devolves her work into a live and let live position ... maybe not Jansenism, but not of stirring brilliance either. In that she labels Hildebrand, Schindler and anyone who espouses the virtue of chastity of body, mind, soul and spirit a Jansenist, then her simple shotgun approach to accusation makes her out to be perhaps over the top. She, like West, is popular as a speaker, more than a professor. Not the case with Schindler; and in the case of Mrs Hildebrand, she is primarily a professor and then a speaker, not the other way around. That is the problem with much of today's emphasis and is what gets the Church into hot water, when the leaders with the loudest mouths and hottest new angles move the herds, who love to give up their birthrights for more and better TV screens. The talking heads typically accuse those who use their reason as prudes, and now in this case as Jansenists. So, where does that leave those who pretend to think, but simply waddle any which way the wind blows?
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Posted Friday, May 29, 2009 9:12 PM By JLS
One possibly important note; when West says Hefner rescued sex from prudishness, let's understand that prudishness did not abort babies, but free sex has aborted 50 million in this nation and 40 million in Spain, and hundreds of millions in all countries. So, this is one example of the foolish Chris West and his advocates. I don't care who you are, if you start pushing abortion even in the most subtle ways, you deserve Hell, and the moreso if you are an educated Catholic. Remember that St Paul teaches us that teachers have immense responsibilities ... when they screw up eithre inadvertantly or by design, then they bring down the coals of Hell on their own heads. I give no quarter to anyone or anything that aids or abets abortion, no matter their previous record. After all, it was the greatest of angels who rebelled against God.
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Posted Saturday, May 30, 2009 6:04 AM By RIchard Flores
As is typical with controversial topics, a good idea is taken too far for whatever reason. In this case, It appears to be a combination of "shock value", ego gratification, and greed. (Controversy equals sales!) It is true that there was a missing element in the topic of sexuality that had NOT been addressed, that sex is ultimately a process of giving all of oneself! So, it is the most intimate sharing of unity, NOT just a means of procreation! That was a major improvement/revelation. However, for one or all of the aforementioned reasons, he had to take it too far and enter into "justification" theology, which is never of God, but of man...and a huge mistake! Basically, it involves justifying sin because of man's nature to sin. (Luther's heresy.) So, the people misunderstand that it is not an issue of "right or wrong", but rather one of which claims/beliefs are right or wrong. It is a situation where both sides have partial ownership of truth. Now, someone with the intelligence to deal with the inherent emotion associated with sexuality needs to resolve the conflict and proclaim a set of ultimate truths! Hold it...don't we already have this entity?
As long as people like Fr. Jenkins are allowed to overtly defy the USCCB and two Popes without any "real", public consequences, the current "crisis of truth" will continue! Where are the leaders with the GUTS to actually defend the faith? What does it mean to proclaim to be Catholic? When are the excommunications of heretics going to start? Until these primary issues are resolved, our Lord weeps for His Church!
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Posted Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:11 AM By Epiphania
I listened to a tape of Janet Smith's talk to priests many years ago. It sounded good until she started talking about natural family planning. Her explanation as to why NFP was fine did not follow logical reasoning. As open-minded as I was at that time, I was left in confusion. Dr. Dietrich von Hildebrand and Alice von Hildebrand's writings on the other hand have left me with a feeling of depthness and clarity. As someone born in the 1950's and was educated (and worshipped) pre-V2 and post V-2, I have come to realize that Traditional Catholic teaching is solid and does not waver. Truth trumps all including all these nouveau spins on Catholicism. Instead of confusing myself and my faith, I just stick to pre-Vatican II teachings and the Holy Sacrifice (not celebration) of the Mass. What a blessing to have come full circle!
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Posted Saturday, May 30, 2009 10:39 AM By MickMont
Mr. Byrne, I appreciate your comments and, no, my intention was not to suggest that John Paul II offered a panacea to get around Church teaching but rather that Christopher West's interpretation of John Paul's teaching would sometimes seem to do so such, as with his reference to Hugh Hefner. I don't doubt nor do I completely understand the mysticism of our previous Pope, but I do doubt the second-hand interpretation offered by Mr. West through his emotional and sometimes theatrical presentation of The Theology of the Body.
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Posted Sunday, May 31, 2009 6:14 PM By Dave N.
Dr. Smith seems confused about the nature of an imprimatur: "an ecclesiastical judgment that a work is completely theologically sound." An imprimatur simply means that the work is free from error or basically non-heretical (a sort of negative assurance). It's not any guarantee of good theology--the bishop issuing it may not even necessarily agree with the content.
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Posted Monday, June 01, 2009 10:57 AM By ALFONSO
From time to time Rome has also told local Bishops to remove their imprimaturs from works that should never have been granted such.
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Posted Monday, June 01, 2009 12:42 PM By Common Sense/Wisdom
SellyWestCoast trust your intuition because you are right to feel what you are feeling regarding Christopher's Wests talks. What you are discerning must be coming from the Holy Ghost. Christopher West does a very bad job and truly is not giving out a true and genuine interpretation of the Theology of the body. I hope EWTN gets him out! Would you believe that at one of West's talks he used the owner of Playboy as an example as to what drove him to creating playboy and sex pleasures. It just made me sick that he would use him as an example. Why would that man be brought up especially when they allowed children to come to his talk, my kids were confused. Whatever Mr. West was trying to convey in such a short time of his talk, it sure did not come across very well. I was raised that sex was a gift from our Lord to a married one man and one woman in a committed relationship, I was raised that it was a gift and it was natural part of being human and that it was not to be abused and also was raised on the concept of self respect etc. Mr. West's talks came across the opposite. Or a little bit twisted with no backbone. I'm afraid it may actually do more harm than good, his talks just ought to be stopped.
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Posted Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:17 AM By JLS
West's energy level is excellent, but misdirected. Just imagine what he could do if he espoused orthodoxy!!!
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Posted Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:37 AM By Abeca Christian
JLS you are right West's energy level is way up there, to bad it is misleading many. Perhaps many enjoy his poor examples of jokes. I dare all to pray for him!
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Posted Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:33 AM By Rita
Whatever philosophic knots Smith wants to tie herself in, sodomy is sodomy, and the "tradition" of using it for foreplay is modern garbage and it is jaw-dropping that Smith and West are swayed by it. I can just hear the shouts of joy amongst homosexuals who might gather from this conversation that sodomy is now natural. Smith here is actually calling for ethicists to explore this possibility.
Doesn't it occur to any of you that if THIS is where TOB leads, that something has gone seriously wrong?
This is why we should be particularly alarmed: Smith teaches young students and seminarians. She sits on the Pontifical Council for the Family. She's a popular and trusted speaker making big bucks on the pro-life circuit. West and Smith's new sexual innovations will not stay in the ivory tower. Couples trust them. I know of one poor woman whose husband has tortured her continually with the demand for anal sex because of his life of prior perversion. He will wave this Smith article right in her face as justification for his sodomy. Because sodomy is such a prevalent sin today, I can't think that she's alone in her despair or humiliation. A woman gets no love from sodomy - face down, receiving no pleasure, used to the point of injury, and sometimes lifelong injury, requiring surgery. That is how serious this is. I can't imagine a more marriage destroying thing. It is the very definition of use.
To call for more ethicsists to "work" on this question, and to call that work a valid "tradition" is one of the most sinister things I've heard to come out of Catholic academia.
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Posted Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:00 AM By Grisha
Rita: Apparently a minority of women get pleasure from anal intercourse. As for your friend with the hubby who pressures her, it doesn't matter whether Professor Smith is right or wrong on the foreplay issue. Her answer is simply "It makes me uncomfortable and I don't want to do it."
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Posted Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:11 AM By Anne T.
Amen! Rita.
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Posted Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:35 PM By Abeca Christian
Rita wow your post was good and to the point!
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Posted Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:25 PM By Anne T.
When C. Everett Koop, President Ronald Reagan's Surgeon General, got on television channels across the nation during the AIDS epidemic and said that the anal passage was not constructed for sexual intercourse and related all the diseases resulting from such actions on both males and females, I took him at his word. Although I did not agree with him on some of his ideas on sex ed for the very young, he was a pioneer in many surgical procedures on both children and adults, from certain brain surgery to genital surgery. I believe he is an evangelical, and although the homosexual community were effective in mostly silencing him, it was to their own detriment.
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Posted Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:32 PM By Anne T.
P.S. to my last post. I felt that the sex education should be taught by the parents or in classes the parents looked over and chose but not in the public schools.
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Posted Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:35 PM By Anne T.
In addition to my last post, Surgeon General Koop saved the lives of countless children with congenital defects, including conjoined twins using new procedures he had developed. I believe too that hundreds, if not thousands, of lives would have been saved or kept from injury if the homosexual, and some in the heterosexual community had just listened to him about their behavior. He was married to his wife for sixty years. His life story in on Wikipedia free Encyclopdia online.
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Posted Friday, September 25, 2009 8:26 AM By Anastasia
I can't describe the outrage and the powerlessness my husband and I are experiencing with the onslaught of "Theology of the body for teens", a high school human sexuality program, that is being ever so quietly introduced in our religion classes and indoctrinating our young Catholic students minds.We have pulled our children out of this class and are praying for discernment if it is God's will that we home school or if it is God's will that we stay in and fight the fight in the name of the militant church and warn others of the foulness of Christopher West teachings and his disciples Jason and Christalina Evert's high school program and the gravity of open forum sex ed classes under the disguise of religion. From the neglect of Thine inspirations, Jesus deliver us
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