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Published: November 1, 2007
Coaxing kids to cross-dress
Middle school cancels “gender-switch” day after parents object
A Bay Area Middle School has canceled a scheduled cross-dressing or “gender-switch” day after parents complained, according to an Oct. 30 Pacific Justice Institute news release. The Sacramento-based institute is a legal organization that defends parental rights, religious freedom, and other civil liberties.
Adams Middle School in Brentwood encouraged students to cross-dress – boys wearing girls clothing, girls wearing boys’ clothing – on the last day of “Spirit Week,” Friday, Nov. 2. Parents were given little notice of the event, said the Pacific Justice Institute, and only found out about it after flyers were posted at the school.
A parent of a seventh-grader met with the principal, Adam Clark, to voice her concerns about the event, and was told that it would go ahead as planned. Clark told the parent she could keep her son home if he did not want to be part of the event. The parent contacted Pacific Justice Institute, which told her she needed to enlist other parents to contact the school with their concerns. The Institute itself prepared to intervene, if necessary.
On Oct. 30, the school removed the flyers advertising the event and confirmed it had been canceled. Instead, the school encourages students to wear school colors instead. Clark told Institute attorney Matthew McReynolds, “We want to encourage our students to be free thinkers, [but] we felt that the overall message wasn’t coming across clear to some members of the community.”
Encouraging student cross-dressing to invite “free thinking” is not unique to Adams Middle School. A 2002 article by the Culture and Family Institute of Concerned Women for America reported how the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) encourages cross-dressing through a curriculum developed for Kindergarten through third grade.
The curriculum guide, produced by the Lesbian and Gay Parents Association and the Buena Vista Lesbian and Gay Parents group in San Francisco, Preventing Prejudice: Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender Lesson Plan Guide for Elementary Schools, features a book, Jesse’s Dream Skirt, by Bruce Mark, about a boy who enjoys wearing his mother’s dresses and wants a skirt for himself. The lesson plan accompanying the book says the book’s key message is “respect means keeping our minds open. Having open minds means giving people freedom to be who they want to be.”
The GLSEN web site still offers the plan as a resource. According to the Network, “Preventing Prejudice is an instructional tool for educators at the K-5 level. It consists of sixteen field-tested lesson plans developed by elementary school teachers, including such topics as: What is a Boy/Girl?; What Makes a Family?; Freedom to Marry; and Coming Out.”
The Brentwood School District’s web site offers an “East Contra Costa Quick Resource Guide,” which lists under “Gay and Lesbian,” the Gay and Lesbian National Hotline, the Empowerment Program (which helps women in “disadvantaged positions”), and Rainbow Community Center of Contra Costa County. The center, according to its web site, “envisions a society that embraces acceptance, safety and equality for all, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity/expression.”
Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 5:09 AM By Sally Anne
I believe this Bay area Middle School now needs to go one step further and have a Principal and Teacher "switch day" where they could consider other lines of work and perhaps dress as businessmen or businesswomen, doctors, nurses, lawyers or Engineers etc. etc., to develop the skills necessary to pursue other lines of work that are more in line with their peculiar curiosities. This way these Principals and Teachers will have more open minds and the freedoms to choose other lines of work that will not impose their particular points of view on innocent 5 to 8 year old children in the classrooms of America. God Bless America. The land of the free and brave I think and I hope for America and our children's sake.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:08 AM By Jo Ann
As California goes, so goes the nation. I have read comments by "gays", stating, "What we couldn't accomplish by the ballot box, we will, by going after your children". I believe the homosexuals feel that, if they convert enough of the population to their deviant lifestyle, their conscience will stop bothering them but it won't work!
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:51 AM By Donna-June
This article brings mixed emotions to me. The school was just offering a day where our children can dress like the opposite gender. There is no requirement that the children comply. Even the school said to keep the child home if the parents were so inclined. At my school we held "dress up day", "dress down day", and many others. Some students participated and a lot did not. It was their choice.
We need to raise our children to respect others and to not discriminate against other just because they are different. This attitude is demonstrating both discrimination and the lack of respect for those that are different from us. I see no difference here from those that made blacks use separate drinking fountains and the parents here. I wonder what Christ feel when he sees these things still happening.
Maybe a “gender switch” day is not the best choice. A better option would to allow the children to wear what they want, anytime they wanted, anywhere they wanted, as long as it is not too revealing. This way there would be no need to a “gender switch” day anywhere. What is wrong with a boy wearing a dress to school as long as it is nice? We need to raise our children so they can deal with the world properly. Not suppress the world so our children remain ignorant. Who is harming their children more? The parent who trains their child to make the right decisions at the right time or the parent who propagates discrimination and hides the world from their children.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:35 AM By Sheila
Point is, Donna-June, Our Lord has said this kind of behavior is wrong. Trans-gender, gay, lesbian, homosexuality is deviant behavior. Now, with that said, as Our Lord said, love the sinner, hate the sin! At no time in the history of the human race was there ever a need to "educate" our children in homosexuality. To do it in grade/middle school is an abomination. Our Lord said also that to lead children astray, it would have been better that a mill-stone be hung around the perpetrator's neck. I think Our Lord made himself perfectly clear on this. Donna-June, you lack discernment and are falling into the trap of the evil one by calling this sin an "education" for our little ones. Please pray about this, as I will pray for you.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:50 AM By Papamac
Donna-June... Our children are not sent to school to learn the perverted gay life style, it is not the place of a morally corrupted school principal and a few teachers to try and force perversion on our children in the name of diversity, it is not diversity, it is vulgar gay perversions and nothing else. This school board which most likely gets voted into office should be recalled immediately, the principal should be reassigned to the unemployment line, but then again the equally morally corrupt teachers union will go to court to enforce their contract provisions with the help of the anti-American ACLU. If you do not find it so objectionable to allow the offensive perversions of this principal to go forward, would you also not find it objectionable to allow prayer in the schools if a principal decides that;s what he or she would like to do???? Would it be ok for a pro life speaker to address the students, would it be ok for a Minister or Priest to address the students on the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Old Testement on the objections of the almighty on homosexuality??? Would it be ok for a Doctor who treats AIDS homosexuals who have an average life span of around 44 years compared to the average age of around 78 years for those who do not practice the so called joys of homosexuality To address those issues with the students, tell them of the suffering and agony they experience once the aids becomes full blown, like cross dressing they could bring in examples of suffering victims to parade in front of the classes so they would get to see and understand the end results of the joys of the perversions of homosexuality, would that not be diversity that would teach the students all of the negative and positive joys of perverted life styles, should they not have both sides of the story...GOD BLESS
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:14 PM By Papamac
Donna June...To continue,MIXED EMOTIONS,, your bottom line betrays you, No we should not suppress the world so our children would remain ignorant, so you agree with my previous posting,, thats good, who is harming their children more, the parent who trains their child to make the right decisions at the right time, or the parent who propagates discrimination and hides the world from their children, Great thinking, so you agree that those who BELIEVE opposite views of gay perversions should be allowed into the schools and that principals have a DUTY to have our children taught the teachings of the Gospels, that Aids doctors should explain and show in full view the end results of gaydoms joys, after all, only allowing this perverted principal to show on side of the story is DISCRIMINATION of the worst kind and that could harm a child for the rest of his short gay life should he make the wrong decision in a moment of weakness, we cannot as you so state hide the REAL WORLD OF GAYDOM FROM OUR CHILDREN. This principal as you so aptly stated tried to hide the world from these innoncent children by forcing one side of the gay world down their throats, hope you have also fired of a letter to the School Board and this Principal objecting most force fully to their discriminatory tactics. We as good Christians should never allow that to happen, should we. We owe it to OUR CHILDREN as good and caring PARENTS to expose this type of discrimination SO THAT our children ARE NO LONGER SUBJECTED to anti Gospel teachings in OUR SCHOOLS, That they are no longer exposed to the ravages of AIDS by Principals and School Boards like these creeps in Brentwood who utterly failed in their duties to teach OUR CHILDREN the full story of the gay life style and the horrorfying suffering that accompanies sexual perversions.GOD BLESS, AND READ A GOOD BOOK, LIKE THE BIBLE.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:24 PM By EMC_John
Had such a day when I was in High School. Not much happened. Some of the girls wore one of thier dads ties. I think the class clown rolled up his pant legs and wrapped some cloth around himself like a skirt for 15 minutes or so.
Think my mothers school had something similar, that would of been in the 40's. Then theres the time Great Grandfather put a dress on to catch the rest of the family hanging May Baskets.
Point is over all those years it was done for comedy or deception. Gayness has only been associated with this in the recent past. And may not have been something the school staff had ever concidered as a reason for holding this as part of Spirit Week.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:59 PM By Ray
"encouraged students to cross-dress – boys wearing girls clothing, girls wearing boys’ clothing"
The girls already wear boys clothes. Here's an idea --- Have girls wear dresses to school.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:24 PM By Maurice
Pink looks good on boys too!
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:31 PM By Annika
Donna-June, if you see no difference between the parents who do not want their children to cross-dress and the history of discrimination/segregation against black children in American schools, please consider how profoundly offensive it would be to make all black students wear "white" clothes and all white students wear "black" clothes for a day. People rarely gain understanding by forcing them to embrace stereotypes. It is possible this was intended as a clownish display of school spirit, but not likely as its the Bay Area Contra Costa County. What parents feel is repeatedly being done to their children is a constant effort to expose their student to the LGBT agenda. It feels like a recruiting campaign to be an LGBT person. Most gay activists want to believe many people are in the closet and need to be outed. They believe children should be outed by being free to explore their curiosity and questioning by experimenting with gender identity and sexuality. All it does is create confusion and anxiety.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 7:39 PM By Ginger
I see nothing worng with this, there was apparently no requirement to participate, and as so far as guys whereing girls clothing, manny women I know where pants and if you look at the current "emo" trend the boys are wearing girls pants because their preferred cuts are not currently available on the network. I personaly have had the belief that what makes a man's clothing is that it is owned by a man and what woman's clothing is that it is owned by a woman, reguardless of what it is Skirts, Slacks, Blouse, Heeles, Work Boots, etc.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:10 PM By Disco Bay Mom
California and the schools are not beyond saving. If parents get involved and stay involved, then these things won't creep us on us without our knowledge. The minute my children get in the car, I ask them how their day was and what happened. That's how I heard that at my son's school, the same cross dressing idea had come up in his Leadership class. Fortunately it never came to pass because the idea was vetoed. Thank goodness there are a few who really care for the welfare of the children instead of furthering an agenda of deviant behavior that not only wants you to allow this behavior but wants to force you to accept this behavior as normal. I can guarantee you that if the cross dressing idea had passed, I would have been out there protesting in BIG fashion. Parents need to unite to protect our children.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:34 PM By John L. Sillasen
Maurice, please spare us the details, and consider reality other than sensual reality.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:28 PM By The other Mike
Ray got it right! I'd settle for a "dress like a normal person day" instead of day in and day out, slob and slut clothes.
Also, the Lord did not say,"hate the sin, love the sinner". It may have been said by Mahatma Gandhi.
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Posted Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:42 PM By John L. Sillasen
The Bible tells us to dress modestly ... cross dressing is not modest. Moreover, it is dishonest and deceptive.
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 11:03 AM By Maurice
Mr. Sillasen: Why is cross dressing non-modest and a sin? My uncle cross dressed every week as a church going Baptist woman!
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 11:11 AM By Mike
The problem I see here is a child does not have the ability to make decisions on their sexuality at such a young age. This is where the “homosexual agenda” takes hold of these young impressionable minds and works diligently to convince confused young men and women they are gay. I agree with Annika, but will add that the agenda is more to attack young people while they are vulnerable, in a state of sexual confusion and identity crisis as adolescents, so to have these young people “realize their sexual identity.” A child does not have the ability to truly identify their sexuality because they are attacked by a war of sexuality taking place in our schools and on TV which aims to confuse these children. It is natural for a young person to exhibit confusion when their hormonal structure is changing and they don’t yet realize who and what they are, but to implant artificial desires into a child’s development before they naturally become aware of their desires is morally criminal. We have to remember that the family is the greatest enemy of the homosexual community and they tirelessly try to destroy any remnants of family in our society.
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 3:15 PM By John L. Sillasen
Maurice, because God says so. If you have a Catholic background, then you know where to find the information. If not, stay tuned. Both the words of Jesus in the Gospel and the words of St Paul in his letters explain this. If you do not have a sufficient understanding of male and female, then you might spend some time reading the Bible's first five books, aka the Torah, and then read the Prophets. These readings spell out the Will of God.
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 3:44 PM By Norman
Mike:
I understand your concern about young people's potential sexuality, but please explain why the ratio of gays to straight has been constant ever since statistically sampled? I guess the "homosexual agenda" is not working since we don't see any dramatic shifts towards the gay ranks. Your thoughts please.
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 3:51 PM By Norman
Did Jesus and the apostles wear pants? The same people who say that the Latin Mass is normative also want people to dress like it is the gay 90's! You are all Manicheans!
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 4:26 PM By Ruth
It seems that not enough people read the Bible in context. It shows lack of (critical) thinking to say that Our Lord (by which I can only assume Poster is taking an exerpt from the Bible, which is written by men and presumably inspired by the Holy Spirit, or from New Testament, which is a heavily editted translation of faith/history texts). Promoting outside-the-box thinking is brilliant, and will undoubtably help the children as they grow. When they encounter a person called "deviant", ie anyone who doesn't show hardcore heterosexual woman-beating chauvanistic tendencies, they will hopefully be able to show more compassion. Oh, and my grade school had something just as scandalous - Wear Your PJs Day. My mother *abhored* the fact that children were wearing PJs around each other. I don't believe that lesbians and gays are "trying to destroy the nuclear family" any more than I believe that heterosexuals are "trying to deprive people of the right to exist". I understand that such dualistic thinking can be difficult, though. I think it's possible that by keeping an open mind and letting children realize that there are possibilities out there for their sexuality is just as important and letting them know there are people with different skin colours and religious affiliations who are just as human, and just as worthy of respect and dignity, as they are. Who could disagree with that?
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 5:21 PM By Ratgrl
Middle school students are NOT "5 to 8 year old children" -- wow, how out-of-touch can you be?! Also, if you feel that wearing clothes typical or or manufactured by the opposite gender is wrong for whatever reason, don't do it. I am sitting here wearing jeans that once belonged to my husband, and I defy anyone to show me how this is harming anyone! As Ben Franklin put it: "vicious adctions are not hurtful because they are forbidden, but forbidden because they are hurtful, the nature of man alone considered." The nature of man, not whatever you personally believe to be a divine revelation. If you choose to follow the letter of Hebrew law, fine. But please don't try to shove it down the throats of the rest of us in public schools. And by the way, that rest of us includes your children, who will only come to see religion as -- well, something forced down their throats! Just ask my jean-handing-down-husband, whose parents did said shoving. He's an atheist now.
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 8:06 PM By John L. Sillasen
Ruth, you ask questions, so just stay tuned for a while, and take in some answers. Norman, what are you talking about? Ratgrl, too bad your world has so much shoving going on; if I were you, I'd seek out a better one.
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 8:59 PM By The other Mike
This episode is just more proof that the public schools (elementary, middle and high schools) should stick to the three "R's", and stay the heck out of morals, sexual identity, parenting, medication, psychology, etc. Reading, writing, and arithmetic should never have been turned into a social experiment promoting homosexualism, eugenics, and death culture worship.
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Posted Friday, November 02, 2007 10:00 PM By Mike
Norman-One reason the percentages of gay versus heterosexual people has not increased throughout time is simple biology…God made man and woman to reproduce. Same sex desire is an abomination of our humanity and defiance blatant defiance of God. Now Ruth, I definitely think it is great to think outside the box. The problem I see with your logic is you cannot compare being homosexual to being Black or Hispanic. I cannot one day decide to change my ethnicity because I feel rejected, yet I can make a choice to engage in sexual promiscuity whether with a woman or man. I understand if someone is inclined to desire same sex relations, but having those relations is a personal choice and cannot be compared to a person’s ethnicity. Finally, if there is no homosexual agenda, why can’t children develop sexually without outside influences trying to convince these children to pursue alternative lifestyles? Having adolescents dress like the opposite sex is preying on confused young people suffering from sexual identity crisis.
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Posted Saturday, November 03, 2007 7:26 AM By John L. Sillasen
Growing-up people, ie children, develop in stages, one "part" at a time. The clearest way to see this, in my experience, is watching puppies grow. One day their head is twice the size of their body, the next day it is half the size; their legs are too long one day, and not long enough the next. Proportion continually changes regarding the parts of kids growing up ... this includes the hidden parts such as mental, and emotional development. The whole physical, mental and spiritual person arrives at a balance point well after the teen years. There are times in the course of development when the kids are vulnerable to outside influences which could make a serious imbalance, or cause a whole lot of damage. This is one reason why kids need moral family values, and should not be over exposed to harmful influences.
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Posted Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:25 AM By Norman
Mike: You didn't answer my question. If the ratio is not changing, then the gays are not winning with their agenda and gaining 'converts'. So why get so worked up about it? I tell you the gays are harmless compared to the abortionists and warmongers. Gays will always be a tiny minority since biology and not a political agenda is a main determinant of sexuality.
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Posted Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:49 PM By Ruth
I know that you cannot change your ethnicity or 'background'. My point in bringing that up is that I hold firmly that a person's hetero- or homosexuality is something very genetic, cannot be changed, and should be respected. (Just an aside: If I were a bisexual woman with a girlfriend, would I be as 'deviant' and a single lesbian who has had many different girlfriends? ...interesting. Or if I were a bisexual with a boyfriend, but have had girlfriends in the past? Would I be as deviant then?) I disagree that all young people suffer from a sexual identity crisis, Mike. Feelings, desires are normal, from the most violent and destructive to the most erotic and pleasurable (and no, I'm not saying they have the same affect on others or would provoke a similar effect. Most of the time). Oh, and I'd really like someone to tell me what the heterosexual agenda is, and how it differs from the perceived homosexual agenda. John L: I completely agree. Children need to be raised in a family with positive values. My definition of positive is welcoming, compassionate and empathic. With parents who come from diverse backgrounds, yet still love each other and their children, those children will have an excellent environment to raise themselves in and to expose their friends to. (Still... do the genders of the parents really matter? I don't think so...)
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Posted Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:28 PM By WB
If the ratio is not changing, that could be proof that gayness is not transmitted genetically. If it was due to a genetic trait, then gays would eventually die out since gay people normally do not procreate.
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Posted Saturday, November 03, 2007 1:36 PM By Mike
Norman-First, I do not believe statistics are the same as they have been. Studies I have seen report an increase in homosexual tendencies around the world. Funny enough though, there is a strong correlation between the rise of homosexuality and rise of child molestation. Through the course of the last 30 years, society has seen increased pornography, sexual promiscuity and experimentation rate. It is a result of the “sexual liberation” of the 60’s when people began having sex more like animals divorcing sexual intercourse from its procreative and bonding inception. Of course homosexuality existed then and has always existed, but as heterosexual people lost the ability to find pleasure in fulfilling the desires of the flesh, they began experimenting in alternative forms of sexuality. This is one reason homosexuality has increased. Additionally, it has become easier to find explicit sexual material today than it was, even 10 years ago. The result is sex has become more of personal gratification tool than a signification of life giving love. Today more than ever, people are trying to fulfill their sexual appetite in disordered ways and as a result, we see a continued rise in disordered sexual appetites as well as a rise in internet predators, sexual molestations, etc. When sex is used for personal gratification and cannot be a procreative life giving act, it becomes natural for animalistic desire to seek different means of satisfaction. These means today are increased sexual experimentation and perversion with children. Now, it is agreed that biologically, it seems natural that heterosexuals will outbreed homosexuals, but I cannot agree that homosexuality is harmless. A Pro-Life philosophy will use human sexuality as a means of reproduction and life giving love. This does not mean that a married couple has to desire children each time they have intercourse, but it does mean they are participating in a union created to give life and having intercourse divorced of an openness to life is an abomination of the flesh and our humanity. Hence, unmarried heterosexual sex is a sin and homosexual sex is a sin; it is an act of human desire and not a participatio
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Posted Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:07 PM By Annika
Thank you, Mike. Well said. Let kids (and middle schoolers are kids) be kids. Why should they have to bear the brunt of the LGBT agenda? Look at Safe Schools.com for just a glimpse of gay activism targeting schools. The trans advocacy is now the cutting edge.
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Posted Sunday, November 04, 2007 12:36 PM By gil
This whole episode was part of Spirit Week. If this had occured in the 60's when I went to high school it would have gone without notice. I remember we dressed up as Santa elves at our school class christmas party and the guys dressed up as cheerleaders. It was funny and the idea of cross dressing was not even on the our minds Unfortunately today every activity is contstrued as a political or social statement. Parents are opposed to Halloween since they feel that its part of demonology since some fundamentalist see it as such. Kids cannot have any fun today. The ideas of spirit week had very little to do with the aims of the GSLEN. While I think a lot of the GSLEN ideas are wacky, what happens in Spirit Week had little to do with their agenda. People need to lighten up a bit!
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Posted Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:54 PM By John L. Sillasen
gil, yes, I'm from high school in the early 60s, and there were indeed a few boys who were light in the loafers. I ran into one of them years later in college ... poor kid was sexually compromised and filled with hate, yet extremely ambitious though as far as seeking control over the public sex roles. This is the whole point, gil, to defend what God has created from those who would pervert it.
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Posted Sunday, November 04, 2007 3:23 PM By The other Mike
gil: I wish we could lighten up a bit, but unfortunatly, we did lighten up a bit in the 1960's and 1970's and look where it got us. Evil does not take a vacation, does not take the day off, and never lightens up. And neither should we.
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Posted Monday, November 05, 2007 8:12 PM By Ruth
gil makes an interesting point... but so does John L. I'm still curious; how can you define and pick what exactly it is that which God has created, and what is that which a group has gotten together, decided "God sucks, let's pervert His message" and thus 'perverted' something. How are those differentiable? Going by old Bible standards, if you had pork the other night, you're a big pervert. And how would the 'defense' work? I know the best defense is a good offense, but an outright attack when neither one's person nor possessions have received even the slightest threat of true harm.... From my point of view, this cannot be black-and-white, but so many try to make it so. Nothing has ever been that clear.
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Posted Monday, November 05, 2007 11:08 PM By Vernon
"Our Lord has said this kind of behavior is wrong" By Sheila
Sorry Sheila but the Lord never ever mentioned anything about LGBT issues and I'm sure you can't find one.
Also, what exactly is this 'Gay Agenda' ya'll keep bringing up? You folks seem to know more about it than real LGBTs. I admit it is a catchy strawman to rally against.
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:39 AM By WB
Our Lord said, "For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a man." LG "issues" are attempts to justify fornication. That is clearly condemned in the Scripture. It's unfortunate that people buy into the GLBT (the bi-sexual gene?) propaganda and simply refuse to look at what the Gospel says -- and refuse to acknowledge the consistent Catholic teaching on this sin. Our Lord has clearly said that this behavior is wrong. I hope this post will be enough to change your opinion.
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:44 AM By WB
Ruth, as Catholics we do not adopt a sola scriptura view to morality. The Church does not look to the Bible to figure out what we should believe. The teaching has been handed to the Church from Christ, to the apostles -- the New Testamen came much later. When doctrines must be defined or explained, the Bible is used to support what the Church has been given from Christ. The Bible itself was codified by the Church through a power that did not originate with the Bible.
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:46 AM By WB
I agree that kids cannot have true fun these days, but that's because of an abuse of childhood, a ruin of innocence and a domination of our culture by commercialism. Halloween used to be a "homemade" day where kids just dressed as whatever. Now its a billion dollar business. Kids used to be able to play outdoors but now parents are going to sue everyone. We need not mention that over 2500 school teachers were arrested this last year in America for sexually assaulting children.
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:48 AM By John L. Sillasen
Ruth, you ask a question and then answer it with flim flam. The answer is simple, and one word ... FAITH. You may also discover that whatever faith you might have can be informed by studying the right sources. How do you know which sources are true? Pray, Ruth, pray. It is like looking at something; if it looks blurry, then you need to adjust your eyes until you see it clearly with no confusion. This will take you a lifetime, as St Paul says, but try and you will see.
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:49 AM By John L. Sillasen
Vernon, good question, about what the gay agenda is. Keep tuned and hopefully you will find the answer.
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:42 PM By George
Ray has it right. Only boys are being coaxed to cross dress. Hmmm... I wonder if there is some kind of "agenda" thing going on here? Vernon, what do you think?
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 2:33 PM By Teacher
This is out of control. This day was created by the students. The teachers and the principal did not attempt to teach kids a perverted way of life. I cannot believe that intolerance that is being posted here. Whast happened to love thy neighbor?
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:00 PM By Teacher 2
It is disappointing to read such awful comments by pillars of the community. The day was set by students as a fun day. Actually, as a gay teacher, I did not want this day because can you imagine the ridicule and horror a student would feel who had transgender or gay issues in our community? Can you imagine the awful names lashed out at that person during a day of fun that incidentally was created by straight people in our community. It makes me shudder to believe that Christians, who I am one, would comment so viciously. Shouldn't Christians be the ones to reach out and help others who need assistance. What ever happened to mercy, love and kindness?
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:28 PM By John L. Sillasen
Why is it that the "gays" always claim any criticism of their lifestyles is vicious violent hatred? In truth, it is sodomy which is hatred, vicious, violent, unnatural, deceptive, and demonic. The sodomites reference their own authority; whereas, those faithful to Jesus Christ reference what Judeo-Christian tradition has always said. So, it comes down to who to believe, the sodomites or God.
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:42 PM By Bill
you all have to get a life. you are all extremists. An education is about exposing students to the world and have them be able to talk to there parents with open minds and hearts. The parents should then help there children learn to make good choices. If you think gays can recruit then you all need to take some classes and learn. God help you all to get a life and treat all gods creatures with kindness. KINDNESS. Whoever turned this into a gay thing has self esteem problems.
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Posted Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:55 PM By John L. Sillasen
Bill, I like being extreme. The late Pope John Paul II wrote a lot about the necessity for Christians to be radical, which means extremely moved by Jesus Christ, the fundamental radical. Jesus showed the world what extreme is all about. Being kind is delivering that message which Jesus gave the Church to deliver. Effeminate males and sodomites are bound for eternal Hell, unless they confess their sin and repent. To constantly warn them of God's judgment on this issue is the essense of kindness. By leading boys into effeminacy, you are securing a millstone around your neck. Remember, Jesus is Life; He got me, and I'll spend mine getting His. Jesus is the Savior because the world needs salvation. If it were not that way, then He would not have gone to the trouble of dying for sinners who exercise faith in God.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:19 AM By George
Bill, sorry man, but it is you who needs to take some classes - no, I'm sure the classes you took were biased. I think you should do your own research. Homosexuality is not genetic - but it is contagious. Homosexuals most certainly groom and recruit new prospects and cross dress days such as this are a wonderful recruiting tool. Such days have no place in mandatory public schools. --- For Teacher and Bill: Mercy, love and kindness are wonderful things. You should practice them. You should have the best interests of our children in mind. They are not mature enough to make appropriate sexual decisions and should not be exposed to and steered toward deviant lifestyles outside the control of parents - particularly when such exposure may be contrary to the religious values being instilled at home. For you, you have the choice to turn toward God, or away from Him. Teacher says he is Christian. Really? Celebate? Show us where your active lifestyle is okay in God's eyes. Forgiveness and repentance, yes - you got it. Continued acts of defiance and directing others to your lifestyle don't fly. Does the word Millstone ring a bell?
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:12 AM By Grisha
John - Please show me any evidence that the Roman Catholic Church teaches that "Efeminacy" is a sin.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:04 AM By Teacher
This whole string is absurd. THE KIDS ASKED TO HAVE THIS DAY! There was no gay agenda at work. Most kids in middle school still see the world as a wonderful place full of fun and new adventures. Not as a place full of imaginary boogie men trying to convert them to a lifestyle that is genetic. They thought it would be fun and funny. It has nothing to do with Jesus, Allah, or any of the other people that you claim to base your lives on. I would love to hear what the student government would say about all of this nonsense. I am sure they would have a good laugh at all of the garbage that adults have put into a day of fun. Let our kids be kids and save your homophobic nonsense for your own family.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:45 AM By Peter
AMEN to that Teacher!
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:58 AM By Mike
Teacher-The point here is young people with undeveloped consciences do not have the ability to decipher fun and games from adults who wish to promote secular lifestyles. Additionally, a lifestyle is not genetic but a choice. I will agree that the desire can be genetic as heterosexual people have the desire to be with someone of the opposite sex, but engaging in sexual activity is a choice, and the choice made to fornicate is the sin at hand. Bill-I don’t get why you think it is appropriate to expose kids to dangerous behavior. If is tolerable to expose them to sexual promiscuity, maybe we should expose them to crack cocaine or invite the kkk into our schools. We wouldn’t do that because we recognize the ramifications it would have on our kids. The whole point here is to protect our kids who are vulnerable to deception.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:30 AM By Mike
I have one final consideration to express based on an experience I had in regard to the LGBT agenda. I witnessed a high school principal promote “alternative lifestyles” to his students by having a “come-out” assembly for the entire student body. He tried to promote tolerance towards the homosexual community and the speakers he had were promoting sexual experimentation as an excellent and natural experience for those confused about their sexual identity. This is clearly a blatant attack on a child’s vulnerability by exploiting a child’s natural curiosity as they are confused due to the hormonal and chemical changes taking place in their bodies. Naturally, a child will come to know their sexuality as they develop physically, emotionally and mentally, but encouraging children to experiment with sex at such an early age lessens the meaning of sex and likens us to animals as we divorce the sexual act from being an act of unity. God created us as man and woman and gave us the gift of sex to better understand His Divine Love, and misuse of this gift will not only hurt the soul, but can cause physical and emotional pain and suffering in this lifetime. Children should not have to choose whether or not to have sex or feel pressured into choosing a sexual identity until their consciences have been informed to make a rational decision.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:56 AM By Teacher 2
I have one thing for all of you......thou shalt not judge and that is a commandment....unless you have all have forgotten.
I can't believe you all call yourselves Catholic.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:46 PM By Mike
There is a difference between judgement and calling brothers and sisters to sanctity.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:41 PM By Teacher 2
Sanctity......we are all born into sin. No one is better than another and has the right to identify any sin of another. What is your sin? I don't care. Deeds do not get you into heaven. Rather, believing in Christ does. Chursh is supposed to be a hospital for sinners. Christ helped the worst sinners. Why do you condemn them. That is not being Christlike.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 3:55 PM By John L. Sillasen
Grisha, St Paul lists a bunch of sins, conditions from which new Christians had been involved in up to their time of coming to Christ. I'll dig it out for you. I think it's found ... could be a couple places ... in Corinthians, Romans, or Galatians. Don't let me forget.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:32 PM By John L. Sillasen
Teacher 2, your theology is not Catholic. If you are interested in what Christianity, founded on St Peter, has taught consistently for two millenia, then study what the Church teaches. Many the convert who has; the Church offers all that God has set out for the benefit of man ... no other organization can make this claim and support it with fact, either from the Bible or from any other valid source.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:39 PM By WB
Obviously, our priests need to judge the severity of sins in the confessional. Spiritual directors need to judge the moral value of a person's actions. We all must help our brothers and sisters overcome sins as well, and to do this we must exercise wise judgement. We also must, together, hate sins and fight against them. Ushering the kids into cross-dressing and sex-role confusion is damaging and a breach of responsibility by the adults in charge of education. That is consistent with Catholic spiritual teaching going back to the time of Christ and the apostolic age.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:42 PM By John L. Sillasen
Grisha: (I've capitalized the key words.) First Corinthians, Chapter 6, Verse 10. Verses 9-11: "9 Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers; 10 NOR THE EFFEMINATE nor liers with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor railers nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God; 11 And such some of you WERE. But you are washed: but you are sanctified: but you are justified: in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:39 PM By Teacher 2
Priests should not judge any severity of sin. It says in the Bible, if you have commited one sin you have commited them all. By the way God forgives all sin as long as you confess.....well I am Protestant so I do not have to say an amount of Hail Mary's to do this....just ask. However, this is a difference between Catholicism and Protestantism. Also, there is no level of sins....however....you are quoting as a Catholic would....that is why i am Protestant. Nevetheless, the Church is the complete body of individuals not just the rightous. I was not one to promote this as my previous blog indicated. Also, I assure you there is no gay agenda here in the suburbs....gosh.....there are no gay people! I just wanted to say we have to watch the care and concern of innocent students who may be at this school who have gender issues. Can you imagine being born 1/2 male and female. We are all God's creation and we have to help all folks even the ones that come with genetic problems and dispositions. Public school promotes education not all this rubbish that everyone is looking into. I would never usher anyone into cross dressing. I do my job as a teacher and it is a shame that this blog site is so misinformed on the facts on our suburban school. I am going to pray for all of you tonight and hope that God sheds some light on you to accept all people for who they are and not judge them and also to assist others who may not think like you. Christians should embrace others not demean them by outcasting them based on one perceived sin.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:15 PM By John L. Sillasen
To judge or not to judge; that is the question. Check out 1 Cor 6:3 "Know you not that we shall judge angels? How much more things of this world?" This one sentence is a small portion of what St Paul says on our obligation to judge others.
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Posted Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:44 PM By George
Teacher2: I'm glad you are here. I pray you read something that causes you to open your mind and heart to actual discernment of good and evil. You appear to have opened yourself to acceptance of the demonic and have become an apologist for the "good side" of evil. Everywhere in the Bible where it speaks of the forgiveness of sins, somewhere nearby it also specifies that we are judged by our actions. To knowingly and willfully continue in your lifestyle-and/or to condone such behavior in others, especially encouraging such behavior in our children, is reprehensible and exceptionally sinful. You claim that the God of Protestants will forgive your sin (which you don’t perceive as sin), but then you spit in God’s face, not skip a beat, and go right back out and sin more. And, you tell MY CHILDREN “it’s okay.” No, it is NOT okay. Not with me, not with God. Teacher2, I am a sinful man. I am not here to judge you. Romans 2 warns me specifically about such things. But also, in accordance with the last line in Romans 1, I do not give approval to your lifestyle. I suggest you become intimately familiar with Romans 1. Paul wrote about YOU 2000 years ago. “They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator” I pray that you and ask for God’s will to be done in your life and that you act wisely. Open your mind to God’s actual word at least to the same degree that you’ve opened yourself to the demonic. You may hear salvation calling.
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Posted Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:29 AM By Mike
Teacher 2-I have two points for you. 1. As Christians, we are obliged to help one another obtain the Kingdom of Heaven. Just as it is justified to keep a friend from taking narcotics, we should help each other avoid sin. What faith in Christ does someone have when their life contradicts everything He taught? If sin didn’t lead us to hell, the devil wouldn’t work so hard at dragging mankind deeper and deeper into sin. 2. How can you say there is no agenda? I gave you a legitimate experience I had at a school and the agenda was quite clear. The LGBT presenters were trying to coax students into exploring homosexuality to satisfy any curiosity or self doubt pertaining to their sexuality. I have also spoken with other people with similar experiences. How can you say there is no agenda when members of the LGBT community go into schools and attack children in such a vulnerable state?
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Posted Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:56 AM By The other Mike
The few kids (very few) who are frustrated by their gender identity need our compassion and guidance. Curent methods only confuse other children with cross dressing and homosexual trial-run programs, making all children sexually promiscuous. The solution is to identify the emotionally troubled kids and take them out of the main stream. Put them into a controlled enviornment where they can learn to be normal human beings. They don't need instruction from LGBT perverts, they need real guidance and love from normal hetrosexual men and women.
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Posted Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:51 PM By maria c
Ok if this teacher thinks there is nothing wrong with this, because the kids asked for it. Then it is time kids start to ask to dress as Saints, people of faith for spirit week. Why not? Saints and angels are good role models and children can actually have someone to look up to. Saints are good role models to model after. Bet that won't happen.
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Posted Friday, November 09, 2007 8:24 AM By Teacher
Dressing up as saints would never happen because the kids would never choose to come as a saint. But since you mention this idea, I do seem to recall most of the saints from the past who mere men wore dresses. And the ones displayed in many churces have dresses with lots of frilly belts and fluffy collars. Maybe that is what this day actually was, dress like a saint day. But is was cancelled becaue one parent did not want his kid to dress like a saint.
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Posted Friday, November 09, 2007 9:59 AM By The other Mike
Thanks to teachers like you, I pulled my kids out of the government school and now teach them at home. No more cross-genderization-perversion workshops for them! Kids enjoy being normal; they do not enjoy being challenged to come out of a closet invented by homosexualists.
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Posted Friday, November 09, 2007 11:33 PM By George
Earth calling "Teacher" Hello? Is anybody home? Are you listening? This is not acceptable behavior for school children and the administrators should be fired on the spot! And, you should find another line of work. You know, some of those students could be budding and frustrated alcoholics. They're going to drink anyway - so, we should assist them by providing a safe drinking environment. BYOB Fridays!!! Yea! After all, we wouldn't want to stifle their supposed natural inclinations would we? --- You bet we would! - we are adults and professionals - that's our job! And if you don't think that's your job, then you have no business working in a school environment with our children - because, you aren't there to educate them - you are there for your own vicarious sexual pleasure. You're a sick puppy -touch my kid or attempt in anyway to lead him astray, and you and I will be having an unpleasant face to face discussion. You can degrade yourself any way like on your own time, but in the presence of my child... your closet door better be padlocked shut from the inside.
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Posted Saturday, November 10, 2007 8:20 AM By mousse
Teacher 2: amazing. George, how did you make the ridiculous leap from sexual preference to alcoholism and pedophilia? Are you as upset that some priests dip a little too much into sacramental wine and their little alter boys? I bet you don't believe it. And, if you have a wife or a girlfriend, do you love her, unconditionally? Why couldn't a woman love another woman the same way? That I don't understand. God's given the capacity to love - love as friends, love in respect, and passionate love. To use the Bard: "Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind, and therefor is wing'd cupid painted blind" (Midsummer Night's Dream) "Let me not to the marriage of true minds/Admit impediments" (sonnet 116).
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Posted Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:03 PM By Mike
Mousse-Quote all you want, but find me some scripture that justifies love that defies natural law. The reality you are missing here is that a woman cannot love another woman in the same capacity as a man and woman can love one another because natural law prohibits it. George’s point is to keep children out of harms way, and allowing them to experience the perversion of the homosexual community is dangerous to their well-being. The reality is, you are trying to justify a perversion of the flesh. Fornication is a sin and has consequences. As for your comment regarding perverted priests, you fail to recognize that the root cause being homosexuality. This is another example of the disordered nature of homosexuality.
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Posted Saturday, November 10, 2007 6:20 PM By Duane
Wonderful. Now our Educators are promoting the celebration of a mental disorder and a perverted life style all under the guise of tollerance and respect. What next, Pedifelia Day or Nephrophelia Day? The very definition of tollerance and indulgance, requires one to react to that which one finds revolting, repugnant or diviate from the norm.
Fire the Administrator, vote out the Board and save our children from these deginerates.
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Posted Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:45 PM By Maria C
Teacher why even go there, your distorted reasoning for cross dressing is outright cooky. I have 3 kids, they all have asked in the past to dress up as saints. But hey why argue with you, you have made up your mind, if you were truly honest with yourself and others, you would tell us what is really on your mind and what your reason for this agenda would be. The evil one slowly infiltrates where he see's week souls. But out of God's mercy, there will always be someone who will rise up and reject what is not right. I know that we have 2 or 3 here who will pray for your soul and conversion. We are gathered in Jesus name. His protection and blessings be upon us all in humility.
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Posted Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:29 PM By Charles
I have a Catholic magazine from the early 1960's that says, "A woman sets a man on edge when she takes to wearing pants around the house." The entire clothing issue is---whatever we aren't used to seeing we call sin or mental illness. This is only intolerance of nonconformity. Greek soldiers still wear pleated skirts in Athens---and pantyhose too. Deut 22:5 cannot be speaking against skirts on men because Deut 22:30 speaks of the man wearing one. Furthermore, Christ commended the Roman centurion as having the greatest faith of all---those soldiers wore skirts. It was factory work in two World Wars that sent women into pants---social forces---not chromosomes---have determined clothing behavior. The social force that put men into pants was transportation---horseback riding (which we seldom do today!) The rigid conformist cannot stand anyone who is able to question the status quo. The New York Times, May 27, 1876, page 6, said women in pants needed to be treated "with the usual methods in use at the best conducted hospitals for the insane."---See it on microfilm at any larger library. Men in skirts, women in pants makes no difference and has no necessary link to homosexuality---ask any skirted Fijian policeman. STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT SKIRTS ON MALES. Look what the high Catholic clergy wears.
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Posted Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:38 PM By Anne T.
Ladies and gentlemen, women's pants and blouses always have the zipper on the opposite side of those of men's apparel. Every seamstress and woman who has sewed clothing knows that. Our buttons are on the opposite side also. The fashion industry has gone to the extreme, though, in making pants for women. In some stores, it is almost impossible for a woman to find a skirt or dress. It is also hard to find modest blouses unless they are somewhat unisex, such as campshirts. I, for one, am getting sick and tired of it.
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Posted Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:23 PM By Anne T.
Concerning my last e-mail about men's and women's apparel having zippers and buttons on the opposite sides, I just checked the newer clothing. Men's buttons are still on the right their shirts, and the women's on the left of their blouses. Never-the-less, although the overlap covering men's zipper still comes from the left, the overlap on women's pants comes from both sides. On the better slacks the overlap covering women's zippers still comes from the right. We know Christ wore a robe and the Virgin Mary wore a robe, but there were always differences between men's robes and women's robes, just as there are still differences between men's and women's pants, at least most of the time.
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Posted Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:41 AM By Anne T.
My point was: there is a difference between changes in fashion and someone deliberately trying to deceive someone else into thinking he/she is a man or a woman when he/she is not unless there is an absolute necessity for doing such a thing, or someone is an actor or actress and just trying to be comical. Joan of Arc was not a cross dresser as some would imply. She only wore armor, etc., to protect herself from injury in battle and rape. All the rest of the time she wore typical women's clothing.
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Posted Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:29 AM By Charles
The Scots say their kilts are masculine for various reasons such as, they are not pleated across the front, and they buckle and pin on the right. That is an allusion to the righteous being on the "right side of God," which in a style of dress is silliness. The location or absence of a pleat is a style difference, but cannot be a sex difference. What the Greeks wear is pleated all around and they would fight to the death to disagree that because it is pleated across the front, that makes it "female." See "Greek dolls" on E-Bay. Style differences are purely arbitrary and therefore not sex differences. Sex differences are bras for women and not for men as an example. Bras are not "style differences," they are anatomical differences. Facial hair was intended to be the main visual differentiation between the sexes but we got into INVENTED "differences" instead.
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Posted Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:21 AM By Anne T.
Style differences, Charles, between male and female clothing would be sex diferences--at least in a particular culture.
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Posted Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:20 PM By Grisha
Look - You silly people can go back to Deuteronomy and pleats and stuff all you want, but any suggestion that the Kilt (It's both Irish and Scottish) is un masculine (or to use the new favorite word around here "effeminate") is full of bologna. Consider that on the night of June 5, 1944 "D" Co. of the Oxford and Buckingham Regiment crash landed in gliders in a field next to the Pegasus Bridge which had to be seized intact.
They secured the bridge, but the next morning the Germans counterattacked and after several hours "D" Co. was almost out of ammunition. Just as they were preparing to withdraw they heard the sound of pipes behind them. Calmly walking down the hill, ignoring the German fire, was Brigadier Lord Lovat and his piper who was playing "Blue Bonnet" BOTH WWERE WEARING KILTS!
Behind them wearing standard battle dress was the 1st Special Service Brigade which secured the bridge and relieved the "Ox and Bucks".
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Posted Tuesday, August 05, 2008 11:22 PM By Charles
"Style differences, Charles, between male and female clothing would be sex diferences--at least in a particular culture."
Don't you see what you, yourself are stating? Equating a style difference to a sex difference is childish reasoning. It is mere associative reasoning. The Greek costume would be considered effeminate in the extreme yet they do not regard it as so (I have one.) As for Grisha's remarks, I never considered kilt wearers womanly. However, they think other nondivided garments are "female" this is mere associative reasoning. To say that only Scottish kilts are masculine nondivided garments is to ignore Roman soldiers, Tongans, Samoans, Hawaiians, Fijians, Maoris, Dervishes, medieval Vatican Swiss guards etc. The kilt people need to view what Bhutanese dancers wear. Those men don't regard their costume as womanly either. Society needs to get away from the "we do it this way because we do it this way" mentality. It all comes down to one thing---clothing has no power to save or damn us. For women, society promotes INDIVIDUAL differences. That's what society should also do for men---recognize INDIVIDUAL differences instead of collectivizing us into a sex typed fixed, changless uniform---the dreary trouser. Pantalone, the top clown of the medieval Italian Commedia Dell Arte (Comedy of the Arts) gave his name to "pants." Believing pants a requisite to masculinity is truly a belief for clowns.
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Posted Monday, September 22, 2008 8:56 PM By wishing
what ever happened to learning from mistakes? im in highschool, and i think that if its a mistake for a certain child to be gay or a trans. let them find out for themselves. if its the wrong choice for said child, then they will abandon it. leave the kid to decide their own life, sorta how your child will choose their carreer. oh and im a boy, who loves to dress as a girl.
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